alcatel Idol 2 Mini vs BlackBerry Torch 9800

Compare recorded specifications, size and practical differences.

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Key differences

Calculated from recorded specifications using minimum difference thresholds. These are differences, not an overall ranking. For three phones, numeric highlights compare the two extremes.

  • Weight

    Idol 2 Mini: 51 g lighter

    Idol 2 Mini:
    110 g
    Torch 9800:
    161 g
  • Width

    Torch 9800: 1.5 mm narrower

    Idol 2 Mini:
    63.5 mm
    Torch 9800:
    62 mm
  • Screen diagonal

    Torch 9800: 1.3 in smaller diagonal

    Idol 2 Mini:
    4.5 in
    Torch 9800:
    3.2 in
  • Depth

    Idol 2 Mini: 6.7 mm thinner

    Idol 2 Mini:
    7.9 mm
    Torch 9800:
    14.6 mm
  • Height

    Torch 9800: 18 mm shorter

    Idol 2 Mini:
    129 mm
    Torch 9800:
    111 mm
  • Release year

    Idol 2 Mini:
    2014
    Torch 9800:
    2010

Physical size

Relative size, not calibrated actual size. Front and side outlines share one scale and a bottom baseline. Generic outlines use recorded body dimensions, excluding camera bumps.

  1. 1. Idol 2 Mini

    Height:
    129 mm +18 mm versus Torch 9800
    Width:
    63.5 mm +1.5 mm versus Torch 9800
    Depth:
    7.9 mm
  2. 2. Torch 9800

    Height:
    111 mm
    Width:
    62 mm
    Depth:
    14.6 mm +6.7 mm versus Idol 2 Mini

Weight

Bars start at zero and share a scale within this chart.

  1. 1. Idol 2 Mini

    110 g

  2. 2. Torch 9800

    161 g

    +51 g versus Idol 2 Mini

Screen size

Approximate rectangular screens calculated from recorded diagonal and aspect ratio at one relative scale. Rounded corners and cutouts are not subtracted. These are not phone outlines or calibrated actual sizes.

  1. 1. Idol 2 Mini

    Screen diagonal:
    4.5 in
    Aspect ratio (height:width):
    16:9
    Approximate rectangular screen area:
    55.8 cm²
  2. 2. Torch 9800

    Screen diagonal:
    3.2 in
    Aspect ratio (height:width):
    4:3
    Approximate rectangular screen area:
    31.7 cm²

Idol 2 Mini has approximately 76% more rectangular screen area than Torch 9800.

Memory variants

Each row compares the same storage capacity. Cells show recorded RAM alternatives, not combined maxima. Not recorded does not mean unavailable in every market.

No unambiguous storage/RAM pairings are recorded. See the original specifications below.

Idol 2 Mini: Original memory entry

4 GB · 1 GB RAM (Single SIM)/ 8 GB · 1 GB RAM (Dual SIM)

Torch 9800: Original memory entry

4 GB · 512 MB RAM · 512 MB ROM

Practical features

Explicit Yes and No values are shown directly. Qualified or regional records retain their details. Unknown means the record is missing.

1. Idol 2 Mini

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
Yes
Memory card support:
See details microSD · up to 32 GB (dedicated slot) - single-SIM model

2. Torch 9800

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
Yes
Memory card support:
See details microSD · up to 32 GB (dedicated slot) · 4 GB included

Battery capacity

Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.

Recorded battery capacity

Bars start at zero and share a scale within this chart.

  1. 1. Idol 2 Mini

    1700 mAh

    +400 mAh versus Torch 9800

  2. 2. Torch 9800

    1300 mAh

Specifications

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1. Idol 2 Mini2. Torch 9800

Everyday essentials
Everyday essentials — specifications for Idol 2 Mini, Torch 9800.
SpecificationIdol 2 MiniTorch 9800
Dimensions (HxWxD)
  • 129 Х 63.5 Х 7.9 mm
  • 111 Х 62 Х 14.6 mm
Weight
  • 110 g
  • 161 g
Technology
  • IPS LCD
  • TFT
Screen size
  • 4.5" inch
  • 3.2" inch
Screen resolution
  • 540 x 960 px
  • 360 x 480 px
Internal memory Recorded storage / RAM variants. Entries are alternatives, not a combined maximum. Ambiguous formats stay as recorded.
  • 4 GB
  • 1 GB RAM (Single SIM)/ 8 GB
  • 1 GB RAM (Dual SIM)
  • 4 GB
  • 512 MB RAM
  • 512 MB ROM
Memory card support
  • microSD
  • up to 32 GB (dedicated slot) - single-SIM model
  • microSD
  • up to 32 GB (dedicated slot)
  • 4 GB included
Battery Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.
  • 1700 mAh
  • Non-removable Li-Ion
  • 1300 mAh
  • Removable Li-Ion
Operating system OS
  • Android 4.3 (Jelly Bean)
  • upgradable to 4.4 (KitKat)
  • BlackBerry OS 6.0
Headphone jack
  • Yes
  • Yes
Display
Display — specifications for Idol 2 Mini, Torch 9800.
SpecificationIdol 2 MiniTorch 9800
Touchscreen
  • capacitive touchscreen
  • capacitive touchscreen
Display colors
  • 16M
  • 16M
Screen area
  • 55.8 cm2
  • 31.7 cm2
Screen format
  • 16:9 (height:width)
  • 4:3 (height:width)
Screen to body ratio
  • 68.1%
  • 46.1%
PPI /points per inch/
  • 245 PPI
  • 188 PPI
Screen protection
  • Asahi Dragontrail Glass
  • oleophobic coating
Unknown
Camera and Video
Camera and Video — specifications for Idol 2 Mini, Torch 9800.
SpecificationIdol 2 MiniTorch 9800
Rear camera, main
  • 8 MP
  • Single
  • 5 MP
  • Single
Camera specs
  • 8 MP
  • AF
  • 5 MP
  • AF
Functions
  • LED flash
  • panorama
  • HDR
  • LED flash
Video
  • 720p@30fps
  • 480p@24fps
Front camera, selfie
  • 0.3 MP
  • Single
  • 0 MP,
Specifications
  • VGA
Unknown
Performance

Scores marked * are historical catalogue entries. Test conditions are unspecified; no new testing is implied.

Performance — specifications for Idol 2 Mini, Torch 9800.
SpecificationIdol 2 MiniTorch 9800
Processor CPU
  • Quad-core 1.2 GHz
  • 624 MHz
Antutu 7 score *
  • 17149
Unknown
General specs
General specs — specifications for Idol 2 Mini, Torch 9800.
SpecificationIdol 2 MiniTorch 9800
Release date
  • 2014
  • February
  • 2010
  • August
Colors
  • Cloudy
  • White
  • Hot pink
  • Slate
  • Black
  • White
  • Dark Orange
Historical recorded price Legacy catalogue value; date unknown. Not a current offer.
  • 160 EUR
  • 110 EUR
Battery life
  • Stand by time- Up to 450 h (2G) / Up to 400 h (3G) Talking time- Up to 12 h (2G) / Up to 5 h (3G)
  • Stand by time- Up to 432 h (2G) / Up to 336 h (3G) Talking time- Up to 5 h 30 min (2G) / Up to 5 h 40 min (3G) Music play - Up to 30 h
Communication and Connectivity
Communication and Connectivity — specifications for Idol 2 Mini, Torch 9800.
SpecificationIdol 2 MiniTorch 9800
SIM card
  • Single SIM (Micro-SIM)Dual SIM (Micro-SIM
  • dual stand-by)
  • Mini-SIM
Network
  • Show all network frequencies: -2G - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (dual-SIM model only)
  • Show all network frequencies: -2G - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Speed
  • HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps
  • HSPA
GPRS
  • Yes
  • Class 10
Edge
  • Yes
  • Class 10
Wi-Fi
  • Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
  • Wi-Fi Direct
  • DLNA
  • hotspot
  • Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
  • UMA (carrier-dependent)
GPS
  • Yes
  • with A-GPS
  • Yes
  • with A-GPS
USB
  • microUSB 2.0
  • microUSB 2.0
Bluetooth
  • 4.0
  • A2DP
  • 2.1
  • A2DP
Harmful irradiation
  • SAR EU - 0.43 W/kg (head) 0.58 W/kg (body)
  • SAR - 0.91 W/kg (head) 0.68 W/kg (body) SAR EU - 0.86 W/kg (head) 0.81 W/kg (body)
Music and Audio
Music and Audio — specifications for Idol 2 Mini, Torch 9800.
SpecificationIdol 2 MiniTorch 9800
Radio
  • Stereo FM radio
  • RDS
  • No
Others
  • Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
Unknown
Other features
Other features — specifications for Idol 2 Mini, Torch 9800.
SpecificationIdol 2 MiniTorch 9800
Dop
  • Sensors Accelerometer
  • proximity
  • compass - Single SIM: 6016A
  • 6016X Dual SIM: 6016D
  • 6016E
  • Sensors Proximity Social feeds -BlackBerry maps -Document viewer (Word
  • Excel
  • PowerPoint) -Media player MP3/WMA/eAAC+/FlAC/OGG player -Video player DivX/XviD/MP4/WMV/H.264 -Organizer -Voice memo/dial - Optical trackpad - Previously rumored as BlackBerry Slider 9800 For AT&T