alcatel Idol 4s vs BlackBerry Torch 9800

Compare recorded specifications, size and practical differences.

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Key differences

Calculated from recorded specifications using minimum difference thresholds. These are differences, not an overall ranking. For three phones, numeric highlights compare the two extremes.

  • Weight

    Idol 4s: 12 g lighter

    Idol 4s:
    149 g
    Torch 9800:
    161 g
  • Width

    Torch 9800: 13.4 mm narrower

    Idol 4s:
    75.4 mm
    Torch 9800:
    62 mm
  • Screen diagonal

    Torch 9800: 2.3 in smaller diagonal

    Idol 4s:
    5.5 in
    Torch 9800:
    3.2 in
  • Depth

    Idol 4s: 7.6 mm thinner

    Idol 4s:
    7 mm
    Torch 9800:
    14.6 mm
  • Height

    Torch 9800: 42.9 mm shorter

    Idol 4s:
    153.9 mm
    Torch 9800:
    111 mm
  • Release year

    Idol 4s:
    2016
    Torch 9800:
    2010

Physical size

Relative size, not calibrated actual size. Front and side outlines share one scale and a bottom baseline. Generic outlines use recorded body dimensions, excluding camera bumps.

  1. 1. Idol 4s

    Height:
    153.9 mm +42.9 mm versus Torch 9800
    Width:
    75.4 mm +13.4 mm versus Torch 9800
    Depth:
    7 mm
  2. 2. Torch 9800

    Height:
    111 mm
    Width:
    62 mm
    Depth:
    14.6 mm +7.6 mm versus Idol 4s

Weight

Bars start at zero and share a scale within this chart.

  1. 1. Idol 4s

    149 g

  2. 2. Torch 9800

    161 g

    +12 g versus Idol 4s

Screen size

Approximate rectangular screens calculated from recorded diagonal and aspect ratio at one relative scale. Rounded corners and cutouts are not subtracted. These are not phone outlines or calibrated actual sizes.

  1. 1. Idol 4s

    Screen diagonal:
    5.5 in
    Aspect ratio (height:width):
    16:9
    Approximate rectangular screen area:
    83.4 cm²
  2. 2. Torch 9800

    Screen diagonal:
    3.2 in
    Aspect ratio (height:width):
    4:3
    Approximate rectangular screen area:
    31.7 cm²

Idol 4s has approximately 163% more rectangular screen area than Torch 9800.

Memory variants

Each row compares the same storage capacity. Cells show recorded RAM alternatives, not combined maxima. Not recorded does not mean unavailable in every market.

Recorded RAM for Idol 4s, Torch 9800, compared at the same storage capacity.
StorageIdol 4sTorch 9800
32 GB 3 GB RAM Unknown
Torch 9800: Original memory entry

4 GB · 512 MB RAM · 512 MB ROM

Practical features

Explicit Yes and No values are shown directly. Qualified or regional records retain their details. Unknown means the record is missing.

1. Idol 4s

NFC:
Yes
Headphone jack:
Yes
Memory card support:
See details microSD · up to 256 GB (uses SIM 2 slot)

2. Torch 9800

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
Yes
Memory card support:
See details microSD · up to 32 GB (dedicated slot) · 4 GB included

Battery capacity

Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.

Recorded battery capacity

Bars start at zero and share a scale within this chart.

  1. 1. Idol 4s

    3000 mAh

    +1700 mAh versus Torch 9800

  2. 2. Torch 9800

    1300 mAh

Specifications

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1. Idol 4s2. Torch 9800

Everyday essentials
Everyday essentials — specifications for Idol 4s, Torch 9800.
SpecificationIdol 4sTorch 9800
Dimensions (HxWxD)
  • 153.9 Х 75.4 Х 7 mm
  • 111 Х 62 Х 14.6 mm
Weight
  • 149 g
  • 161 g
Technology
  • AMOLED
  • TFT
Screen size
  • 5.5" inch
  • 3.2" inch
Screen resolution
  • 1440 x 2560 px
  • 360 x 480 px
Internal memory Recorded storage / RAM variants. Entries are alternatives, not a combined maximum. Ambiguous formats stay as recorded.
  • 32 GB
  • 3 GB RAM
  • 4 GB
  • 512 MB RAM
  • 512 MB ROM
Memory card support
  • microSD
  • up to 256 GB (uses SIM 2 slot)
  • microSD
  • up to 32 GB (dedicated slot)
  • 4 GB included
Battery Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.
  • 3000 mAh
  • Non-removable Li-Ion
  • 1300 mAh
  • Removable Li-Ion
Operating system OS
  • Android 6.0.1 (Marshmallow)
  • BlackBerry OS 6.0
Chipset
  • Qualcomm MSM8976 Snapdragon 652 (28 nm)
Unknown
NFC
  • Yes
Unknown
Headphone jack
  • Yes
  • Yes
Display
Display — specifications for Idol 4s, Torch 9800.
SpecificationIdol 4sTorch 9800
Touchscreen
  • capacitive touchscreen
  • capacitive touchscreen
Display colors
  • 16M
  • 16M
Screen area
  • 83.4 cm2
  • 31.7 cm2
Screen format
  • 16:9 (height:width)
  • 4:3 (height:width)
Screen to body ratio
  • 71.9%
  • 46.1%
PPI /points per inch/
  • 534 PPI
  • 188 PPI
Camera and Video
Camera and Video — specifications for Idol 4s, Torch 9800.
SpecificationIdol 4sTorch 9800
Rear camera, main
  • 16 MP
  • Single
  • 5 MP
  • Single
Camera specs
  • 16 MP
  • PDAF
  • f/2.0
  • 5 MP
  • AF
Functions
  • LED flash
  • LED flash
Video
  • 1080p@30fps
  • 480p@24fps
Front camera, selfie
  • 8 MP
  • Single
  • 0 MP,
Specifications
  • 8 MP
Unknown
Performance

Scores marked * are historical catalogue entries. Test conditions are unspecified; no new testing is implied.

Performance — specifications for Idol 4s, Torch 9800.
SpecificationIdol 4sTorch 9800
Processor CPU
  • Octa-core (4x1.8 GHz Cortex-A72 & 4x1.4 GHz Cortex-A53)
  • 624 MHz
Graphics processor GPU
  • Adreno 510
Unknown
Antutu 7 score *
  • 85326
Unknown
GeekBench 4 Single Core *
  • 1414
Unknown
GeekBench 4 Multi-Core *
  • 3088
Unknown
GeekBench 4 RenderScript *
  • 3904
Unknown
General specs
General specs — specifications for Idol 4s, Torch 9800.
SpecificationIdol 4sTorch 9800
Release date
  • 2016
  • February
  • 2010
  • August
Colors
  • Gold
  • Dark Gray
  • Rose Gold
  • Metal Silver
  • Black
  • White
  • Dark Orange
Historical recorded price Legacy catalogue value; date unknown. Not a current offer.
  • 220 EUR
  • 110 EUR
Battery life
  • Stand by time- Up to 420 h (2G) / Up to 420 h (3G) Talking time- Up to 13 h (2G) / Up to 13 h (3G)
  • Stand by time- Up to 432 h (2G) / Up to 336 h (3G) Talking time- Up to 5 h 30 min (2G) / Up to 5 h 40 min (3G) Music play - Up to 30 h
Communication and Connectivity
Communication and Connectivity — specifications for Idol 4s, Torch 9800.
SpecificationIdol 4sTorch 9800
SIM card
  • Hybrid Dual SIM (Nano-SIM
  • dual stand-by) - 6070K
  • Mini-SIM
Network
  • Show all network frequencies: -2G - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (optional) -3G - HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - 6070K
  • 6070Y HSDPA 850 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100 - 6070O -4G - LTE band 1(2100)
  • 3(1800)
  • 7(2600)
  • 8(900)
  • 20(800)
  • 28(700) - 6070K
  • 6070Y LTE band 2(1900)
  • 4(1700/2100)
  • 5(850)
  • 12(700)
  • 17(700) - 6070O
  • Show all network frequencies: -2G - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Speed
  • HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps
  • LTE Cat4 150/50 Mbps
  • HSPA
GPRS
  • Yes
  • Class 10
Edge
  • Yes
  • Class 10
Wi-Fi
  • Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
  • dual-band
  • WiFi Direct
  • hotspot
  • Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
  • UMA (carrier-dependent)
GPS
  • Yes
  • with A-GPS
  • Yes
  • with A-GPS
USB
  • microUSB 2.0
  • USB Host
  • microUSB 2.0
Bluetooth
  • 4.2
  • A2DP
  • LE
  • 2.1
  • A2DP
Harmful irradiation Unknown
  • SAR - 0.91 W/kg (head) 0.68 W/kg (body) SAR EU - 0.86 W/kg (head) 0.81 W/kg (body)
Music and Audio
Music and Audio — specifications for Idol 4s, Torch 9800.
SpecificationIdol 4sTorch 9800
Radio
  • FM radio
  • RDS
  • No
Others
  • Hi-Fi audio -Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
Unknown
Other features
Other features — specifications for Idol 4s, Torch 9800.
SpecificationIdol 4sTorch 9800
Dop
  • Sensors Accelerometer
  • gyro
  • proximity
  • compass - Fast battery charging (Quick Charge 2.0) -Virtual Reality Goggles included
  • Sensors Proximity Social feeds -BlackBerry maps -Document viewer (Word
  • Excel
  • PowerPoint) -Media player MP3/WMA/eAAC+/FlAC/OGG player -Video player DivX/XviD/MP4/WMV/H.264 -Organizer -Voice memo/dial - Optical trackpad - Previously rumored as BlackBerry Slider 9800 For AT&T