alcatel Idol 5s vs Palm Treo 180

Compare recorded specifications, size and practical differences.

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Key differences

Calculated from recorded specifications using minimum difference thresholds. These are differences, not an overall ranking. For three phones, numeric highlights compare the two extremes.

  • Width

    Treo 180: 1 mm narrower

    Idol 5s:
    72 mm
    Treo 180:
    71 mm
  • Depth

    Idol 5s: 13.5 mm thinner

    Idol 5s:
    7.5 mm
    Treo 180:
    21 mm
  • Height

    Treo 180: 40.6 mm shorter

    Idol 5s:
    148.6 mm
    Treo 180:
    108 mm
  • Release year

    Idol 5s:
    2017
    Treo 180:
    2002

Physical size

Relative size, not calibrated actual size. Front and side outlines share one scale and a bottom baseline. Generic outlines use recorded body dimensions, excluding camera bumps.

  1. 1. Idol 5s

    Height:
    148.6 mm +40.6 mm versus Treo 180
    Width:
    72 mm +1 mm versus Treo 180
    Depth:
    7.5 mm
  2. 2. Treo 180

    Height:
    108 mm
    Width:
    71 mm
    Depth:
    21 mm +13.5 mm versus Idol 5s

Weight

Bars start at zero and share a scale within this chart.

  1. 1. Idol 5s

    147 g

  2. 2. Treo 180

    147 g

Screen size

Approximate rectangular screens calculated from recorded diagonal and aspect ratio at one relative scale. Rounded corners and cutouts are not subtracted. These are not phone outlines or calibrated actual sizes.

At least two phones need compatible screen dimensions for a drawing.

  1. 1. Idol 5s

    Screen diagonal:
    5.2 in
    Aspect ratio (height:width):
    16:9
    Approximate rectangular screen area:
    74.5 cm²
  2. 2. Treo 180

    Treo 180: Screen geometry unavailable or conflicting.

Memory variants

Each row compares the same storage capacity. Cells show recorded RAM alternatives, not combined maxima. Not recorded does not mean unavailable in every market.

Recorded RAM for Idol 5s, Treo 180, compared at the same storage capacity.
StorageIdol 5sTreo 180
32 GB 3 GB RAM Unknown
Treo 180: Original memory entry

16 MB

Practical features

Explicit Yes and No values are shown directly. Qualified or regional records retain their details. Unknown means the record is missing.

1. Idol 5s

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
Yes
Memory card support:
See details microSD · up to 256 GB

2. Treo 180

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
No
Memory card support:
No

Battery capacity

Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.

At least two unambiguous positive capacity values are needed for a chart. Original entries remain in the specifications.

Specifications

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1. Idol 5s2. Treo 180

Everyday essentials
Everyday essentials — specifications for Idol 5s, Treo 180.
SpecificationIdol 5sTreo 180
Dimensions (HxWxD)
  • 148.6 Х 72 Х 7.5 mm
  • 108 Х 71 Х 21 mm
Weight
  • 147 g
  • 147 g
Technology
  • IPS LCD
  • Monochrome
Screen size
  • 5.2" inch
  • 0" inch
Screen resolution
  • 1080 x 1920 px
  • 160 x 160 px
Internal memory Recorded storage / RAM variants. Entries are alternatives, not a combined maximum. Ambiguous formats stay as recorded.
  • 32 GB
  • 3 GB RAM
  • 16 MB
Memory card support
  • microSD
  • up to 256 GB
  • No
Battery Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.
  • 2850 mAh
  • Non-removable Li-Ion
  • 0 mAh,
Operating system OS
  • Android 7.1 (Nougat)
  • Palm 3.5.2H
Chipset
  • Mediatek MT6757 Helio P20 (16 nm)
Unknown
Headphone jack
  • Yes
  • No
Display
Display — specifications for Idol 5s, Treo 180.
SpecificationIdol 5sTreo 180
Touchscreen
  • capacitive touchscreen
  • resistive touchscreen
Display colors
  • 16M
Unknown
Screen area
  • 74.5 cm2
Unknown
Screen format
  • 16:9 (height:width)
  • 1:1 (height:width)
Screen to body ratio
  • 69.7%
Unknown
PPI /points per inch/
  • 424 PPI
  • 0 PPI
Screen protection
  • oleophobic coating
Unknown
Camera and Video
Camera and Video — specifications for Idol 5s, Treo 180.
SpecificationIdol 5sTreo 180
Rear camera, main
  • 12 MP
  • Single
  • 0 MP,
Camera specs
  • 12 MP
  • f/2.0
  • 1/2.8''
  • 1.25µm
  • PDAF
Unknown
Functions
  • Dual-LED dual-tone flash
  • HDR
  • panorama
Unknown
Video
  • 1080p@30fps
Unknown
Front camera, selfie
  • 8 MP
  • Single
  • 0 MP,
Specifications
  • 8 MP
  • f/2.0
  • 1/3.2''
  • 1.4µm
Unknown
Performance

Scores marked * are historical catalogue entries. Test conditions are unspecified; no new testing is implied.

Performance — specifications for Idol 5s, Treo 180.
SpecificationIdol 5sTreo 180
Processor CPU
  • Octa-core (4x2.35 GHz Cortex-A53 & 4x1.65 GHz Cortex-A53)
  • Motorola DragonBall VZ MC68VZ328 33MHz
Graphics processor GPU
  • Mali-T880MP2
Unknown
Antutu 7 score *
  • 80302
Unknown
GeekBench 4 Single Core *
  • 824
Unknown
GeekBench 4 Multi-Core *
  • 3421
Unknown
General specs
General specs — specifications for Idol 5s, Treo 180.
SpecificationIdol 5sTreo 180
Release date
  • 2017
  • September
  • 2002
Colors
  • Dark Gray
  • Steel Blue
Historical recorded price Legacy catalogue value; date unknown. Not a current offer.
  • 140 EUR
Unknown
Battery life
  • Stand by time- Up to 500 h (2G) / Up to 500 h (3G) Talking time- Up to 18 h (2G) / Up to 18 h (3G)
  • Stand by time- Up to 100 h Talking time- Up to 2 h 30 min
Communication and Connectivity
Communication and Connectivity — specifications for Idol 5s, Treo 180.
SpecificationIdol 5sTreo 180
SIM card
  • Nano-SIM
  • Mini-SIM
Network
  • Show all network frequencies: -2G - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 -3G - HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 -4G - LTE band 1(2100)
  • 3(1800)
  • 7(2600)
  • 8(900)
  • 20(800)
  • 28(700)
Unknown
Speed
  • HSPA 42.2/11.5 Mbps
  • LTE Cat4 150/50 Mbps
Unknown
GPRS
  • Yes
  • No
Edge
  • Yes
  • No
Wi-Fi
  • Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
  • dual-band
  • WiFi Direct
  • hotspot
  • No
GPS
  • Yes
  • with A-GPS
  • No
USB
  • 2.0
  • Type-C 1.0 reversible connector
  • USB On-The-Go
  • Proprietary
Bluetooth
  • 4.2
  • A2DP
  • LE
  • No
Music and Audio
Music and Audio — specifications for Idol 5s, Treo 180.
SpecificationIdol 5sTreo 180
Radio
  • FM radio with RDS
  • No
Others
  • Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
Unknown
Other features
Other features — specifications for Idol 5s, Treo 180.
SpecificationIdol 5sTreo 180
Dop
  • Sensors Fingerprint (rear-mounted)
  • accelerometer
  • gyro
  • proximity
  • compass - Fast battery charging (Pump Express 2.0)
  • Infrared port - 33 MHz Motorola Dragonball Processor -Organizer -Advanced calculator -GPRS upgradable -Handsfree ear-bud headset included