BlackBerry 8700c vs Palm Pre

Compare recorded specifications, size and practical differences.

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Key differences

Calculated from recorded specifications using minimum difference thresholds. These are differences, not an overall ranking. For three phones, numeric highlights compare the two extremes.

  • Width

    Pre: 10 mm narrower

    8700c:
    69.5 mm
    Pre:
    59.5 mm
  • Screen diagonal

    8700c: 0.5 in smaller diagonal

    8700c:
    2.6 in
    Pre:
    3.1 in
  • Depth

    Pre: 2.6 mm thinner

    8700c:
    19.5 mm
    Pre:
    16.9 mm
  • Height

    Pre: 9.5 mm shorter

    8700c:
    110 mm
    Pre:
    100.5 mm
  • Release year

    8700c:
    2004
    Pre:
    2009

Physical size

Relative size, not calibrated actual size. Front and side outlines share one scale and a bottom baseline. Generic outlines use recorded body dimensions, excluding camera bumps.

  1. 1. 8700c

    Height:
    110 mm +9.5 mm versus Pre
    Width:
    69.5 mm +10 mm versus Pre
    Depth:
    19.5 mm +2.6 mm versus Pre
  2. 2. Pre

    Height:
    100.5 mm
    Width:
    59.5 mm
    Depth:
    16.9 mm

Weight

Bars start at zero and share a scale within this chart.

  1. 1. 8700c

    134 g

    +1 g versus Pre

  2. 2. Pre

    133 g

Screen size

Approximate rectangular screens calculated from recorded diagonal and aspect ratio at one relative scale. Rounded corners and cutouts are not subtracted. These are not phone outlines or calibrated actual sizes.

  1. 1. 8700c

    Screen diagonal:
    2.6 in
    Aspect ratio (height:width):
    4:3
    Approximate rectangular screen area:
    20.9 cm²
  2. 2. Pre

    Screen diagonal:
    3.1 in
    Aspect ratio (height:width):
    3:2
    Approximate rectangular screen area:
    28.6 cm²

Pre has approximately 36.7% more rectangular screen area than 8700c.

Memory variants

Each row compares the same storage capacity. Cells show recorded RAM alternatives, not combined maxima. Not recorded does not mean unavailable in every market.

No unambiguous storage/RAM pairings are recorded. See the original specifications below.

8700c: Original memory entry

64 MB · 16 MB RAM

Pre: Original memory entry

8 GB · 256 MB RAM

Practical features

Explicit Yes and No values are shown directly. Qualified or regional records retain their details. Unknown means the record is missing.

1. 8700c

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
No
Memory card support:
No

2. Pre

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
Yes
Memory card support:
No

Battery capacity

Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.

Recorded battery capacity

Bars start at zero and share a scale within this chart.

  1. 1. 8700c

    1100 mAh

  2. 2. Pre

    1150 mAh

    +50 mAh versus 8700c

Specifications

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1. 8700c2. Pre

Everyday essentials
Everyday essentials — specifications for 8700c, Pre.
Specification8700cPre
Dimensions (HxWxD)
  • 110 Х 69.5 Х 19.5 mm
  • 100.5 Х 59.5 Х 16.9 mm
Weight
  • 134 g
  • 133 g
Technology Unknown
  • TFT
Screen size
  • 2.6" inch
  • 3.1" inch
Screen resolution
  • 320 x 240 px
  • 320 x 480 px
Internal memory Recorded storage / RAM variants. Entries are alternatives, not a combined maximum. Ambiguous formats stay as recorded.
  • 64 MB
  • 16 MB RAM
  • 8 GB
  • 256 MB RAM
Memory card support
  • No
  • No
Battery Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.
  • 1100 mAh
  • Removable Li-Ion
  • 1150 mAh
  • Removable Li-Ion
Operating system OS
  • BlackBerry OS
  • Palm webOS
Headphone jack
  • No
  • Yes
Display
Display — specifications for 8700c, Pre.
Specification8700cPre
Touchscreen Unknown
  • capacitive touchscreen
Display colors
  • 65K
  • 16M
Screen area
  • 20.9 cm2
  • 28.6 cm2
Screen format
  • 4:3 (height:width)
  • 3:2 (height:width)
Screen to body ratio
  • 27.4%
  • 47.9%
PPI /points per inch/
  • 154 PPI
  • 186 PPI
Camera and Video
Camera and Video — specifications for 8700c, Pre.
Specification8700cPre
Rear camera, main
  • 0 MP,
  • 3.15 MP
  • Single
Camera specs Unknown
  • 3.15 MP
Functions Unknown
  • LED flash
Video Unknown
  • No
Front camera, selfie
  • 0 MP,
  • 0 MP,
Performance
Performance — specifications for 8700c, Pre.
Specification8700cPre
Processor CPU
  • Intel PXA901 312 MHz
  • 600 MHz Cortex-A8
Graphics processor GPU Unknown
  • PowerVR SGX
General specs
General specs — specifications for 8700c, Pre.
Specification8700cPre
Release date
  • 2004
  • Q4
  • 2009
  • Februray
Colors Unknown
  • Black
Historical recorded price Legacy catalogue value; date unknown. Not a current offer. Unknown
  • 180 EUR
Battery life
  • Stand by time- Up to 450 h Talking time- Up to 4 h
  • Stand by time- Up to 300 h Talking time- Up to 5 h
Communication and Connectivity
Communication and Connectivity — specifications for 8700c, Pre.
Specification8700cPre
SIM card
  • Mini-SIM
  • Mini-SIM
Network Unknown
  • Show all network frequencies: -2G - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Speed Unknown
  • HSPA 3.6/0.384 Mbps
GPRS
  • Yes
  • Class 10
Edge
  • Yes
  • Class 10
Wi-Fi
  • No
  • Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g
GPS
  • No
  • Yes
USB
  • Proprietary
  • microUSB
Bluetooth
  • Yes
  • 2.1
  • A2DP (headset support only)
Harmful irradiation Unknown
  • SAR - 0.92 W/kg (head) 0.94 W/kg (body)
Music and Audio
Music and Audio — specifications for 8700c, Pre.
Specification8700cPre
Radio
  • No
  • No
Other features
Other features — specifications for 8700c, Pre.
Specification8700cPre
Dop
  • Organizer BlackBerry 8700c in US from Cingular WirelessBlackBerry 8700r in Canada from Rogers WirelessBlackBerry 8700f in France from OrangeBlackBerry 8700v for Vodafone
  • Sensors Accelerometer Wireless charging