BlackBerry Torch 9800 vs HP Pre 3

Compare recorded specifications, size and practical differences.

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Key differences

Calculated from recorded specifications using minimum difference thresholds. These are differences, not an overall ranking. For three phones, numeric highlights compare the two extremes.

  • Weight

    Pre 3: 5 g lighter

    Torch 9800:
    161 g
    Pre 3:
    156 g
  • Width

    Torch 9800: 2 mm narrower

    Torch 9800:
    62 mm
    Pre 3:
    64 mm
  • Screen diagonal

    Torch 9800: 0.38 in smaller diagonal

    Torch 9800:
    3.2 in
    Pre 3:
    3.58 in
  • Depth

    Torch 9800: 1.4 mm thinner

    Torch 9800:
    14.6 mm
    Pre 3:
    16 mm
  • Release year

    Torch 9800:
    2010
    Pre 3:
    2011

Physical size

Relative size, not calibrated actual size. Front and side outlines share one scale and a bottom baseline. Generic outlines use recorded body dimensions, excluding camera bumps.

  1. 1. Torch 9800

    Height:
    111 mm
    Width:
    62 mm
    Depth:
    14.6 mm
  2. 2. Pre 3

    Height:
    111 mm
    Width:
    64 mm +2 mm versus Torch 9800
    Depth:
    16 mm +1.4 mm versus Torch 9800

Weight

Bars start at zero and share a scale within this chart.

  1. 1. Torch 9800

    161 g

    +5 g versus Pre 3

  2. 2. Pre 3

    156 g

Screen size

Approximate rectangular screens calculated from recorded diagonal and aspect ratio at one relative scale. Rounded corners and cutouts are not subtracted. These are not phone outlines or calibrated actual sizes.

  1. 1. Torch 9800

    Screen diagonal:
    3.2 in
    Aspect ratio (height:width):
    4:3
    Approximate rectangular screen area:
    31.7 cm²
  2. 2. Pre 3

    Screen diagonal:
    3.58 in
    Aspect ratio (height:width):
    5:3
    Approximate rectangular screen area:
    36.5 cm²

Pre 3 has approximately 15% more rectangular screen area than Torch 9800.

Memory variants

Each row compares the same storage capacity. Cells show recorded RAM alternatives, not combined maxima. Not recorded does not mean unavailable in every market.

No unambiguous storage/RAM pairings are recorded. See the original specifications below.

Torch 9800: Original memory entry

4 GB · 512 MB RAM · 512 MB ROM

Pre 3: Original memory entry

8 GB · 512 MB RAM

Practical features

Explicit Yes and No values are shown directly. Qualified or regional records retain their details. Unknown means the record is missing.

1. Torch 9800

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
Yes
Memory card support:
See details microSD · up to 32 GB (dedicated slot) · 4 GB included

2. Pre 3

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
Yes
Memory card support:
No

Battery capacity

Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.

Recorded battery capacity

Bars start at zero and share a scale within this chart.

  1. 1. Torch 9800

    1300 mAh

    +70 mAh versus Pre 3

  2. 2. Pre 3

    1230 mAh

Specifications

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1. Torch 98002. Pre 3

Everyday essentials
Everyday essentials — specifications for Torch 9800, Pre 3.
SpecificationTorch 9800Pre 3
Dimensions (HxWxD)
  • 111 Х 62 Х 14.6 mm
  • 111 Х 64 Х 16 mm
Weight
  • 161 g
  • 156 g
Technology
  • TFT
  • TFT
Screen size
  • 3.2" inch
  • 3.58" inch
Screen resolution
  • 360 x 480 px
  • 480 x 800 px
Internal memory Recorded storage / RAM variants. Entries are alternatives, not a combined maximum. Ambiguous formats stay as recorded.
  • 4 GB
  • 512 MB RAM
  • 512 MB ROM
  • 8 GB
  • 512 MB RAM
Memory card support
  • microSD
  • up to 32 GB (dedicated slot)
  • 4 GB included
  • No
Battery Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.
  • 1300 mAh
  • Removable Li-Ion
  • 1230 mAh
  • Removable Li-Ion
Operating system OS
  • BlackBerry OS 6.0
  • HP webOS 2.2
Chipset Unknown
  • Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon S2
Headphone jack
  • Yes
  • Yes
Display
Display — specifications for Torch 9800, Pre 3.
SpecificationTorch 9800Pre 3
Touchscreen
  • capacitive touchscreen
  • capacitive touchscreen
Display colors
  • 16M
  • 16M
Screen area
  • 31.7 cm2
  • 36.5 cm2
Screen format
  • 4:3 (height:width)
  • 5:3 (height:width)
Screen to body ratio
  • 46.1%
  • 51.4%
PPI /points per inch/
  • 188 PPI
  • 261 PPI
Camera and Video
Camera and Video — specifications for Torch 9800, Pre 3.
SpecificationTorch 9800Pre 3
Rear camera, main
  • 5 MP
  • Single
  • 5 MP
  • Single
Camera specs
  • 5 MP
  • AF
  • 5 MP
  • AF
Functions
  • LED flash
  • LED flash
Video
  • 480p@24fps
  • 720p
Front camera, selfie
  • 0 MP,
  • 0.3 MP
  • Single
Specifications Unknown
  • VGA
Performance
Performance — specifications for Torch 9800, Pre 3.
SpecificationTorch 9800Pre 3
Processor CPU
  • 624 MHz
  • 1.4 GHz Scorpion
Graphics processor GPU Unknown
  • Adreno 205
General specs
General specs — specifications for Torch 9800, Pre 3.
SpecificationTorch 9800Pre 3
Release date
  • 2010
  • August
  • 2011
  • February
Colors
  • Black
  • White
  • Dark Orange
  • Black
Historical recorded price Legacy catalogue value; date unknown. Not a current offer.
  • 110 EUR
  • 350 EUR
Battery life
  • Stand by time- Up to 432 h (2G) / Up to 336 h (3G) Talking time- Up to 5 h 30 min (2G) / Up to 5 h 40 min (3G) Music play - Up to 30 h
  • Stand by time- Up to 300 h Talking time- Up to 5 h
Communication and Connectivity
Communication and Connectivity — specifications for Torch 9800, Pre 3.
SpecificationTorch 9800Pre 3
SIM card
  • Mini-SIM
  • Mini-SIM
Network
  • Show all network frequencies: -2G - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
  • Show all network frequencies: -2G - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Speed
  • HSPA
  • HSPA 7.2/5.76 Mbps
GPRS
  • Class 10
  • Yes
Edge
  • Class 10
  • Yes
Wi-Fi
  • Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
  • UMA (carrier-dependent)
  • Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n
  • dual-band
GPS
  • Yes
  • with A-GPS
  • Yes
  • with A-GPS
USB
  • microUSB 2.0
  • microUSB 2.0
Bluetooth
  • 2.1
  • A2DP
  • 2.1
  • A2DP
  • EDR
Harmful irradiation
  • SAR - 0.91 W/kg (head) 0.68 W/kg (body) SAR EU - 0.86 W/kg (head) 0.81 W/kg (body)
Unknown
Music and Audio
Music and Audio — specifications for Torch 9800, Pre 3.
SpecificationTorch 9800Pre 3
Radio
  • No
  • No
Others Unknown
  • Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
Other features
Other features — specifications for Torch 9800, Pre 3.
SpecificationTorch 9800Pre 3
Dop
  • Sensors Proximity Social feeds -BlackBerry maps -Document viewer (Word
  • Excel
  • PowerPoint) -Media player MP3/WMA/eAAC+/FlAC/OGG player -Video player DivX/XviD/MP4/WMV/H.264 -Organizer -Voice memo/dial - Optical trackpad - Previously rumored as BlackBerry Slider 9800 For AT&T
  • Sensors Accelerometer
  • proximity
  • compass - MP3/WAV/eAAC+ player -MP4/H.264 player -Organizer -Document viewer -Voice memo/dial -Predictive text input