HP Pre 3 vs Palm Treo 180

Compare recorded specifications, size and practical differences.

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Key differences

Calculated from recorded specifications using minimum difference thresholds. These are differences, not an overall ranking. For three phones, numeric highlights compare the two extremes.

  • Weight

    Treo 180: 9 g lighter

    Pre 3:
    156 g
    Treo 180:
    147 g
  • Width

    Pre 3: 7 mm narrower

    Pre 3:
    64 mm
    Treo 180:
    71 mm
  • Depth

    Pre 3: 5 mm thinner

    Pre 3:
    16 mm
    Treo 180:
    21 mm
  • Height

    Treo 180: 3 mm shorter

    Pre 3:
    111 mm
    Treo 180:
    108 mm
  • Release year

    Pre 3:
    2011
    Treo 180:
    2002

Physical size

Relative size, not calibrated actual size. Front and side outlines share one scale and a bottom baseline. Generic outlines use recorded body dimensions, excluding camera bumps.

  1. 1. Pre 3

    Height:
    111 mm +3 mm versus Treo 180
    Width:
    64 mm
    Depth:
    16 mm
  2. 2. Treo 180

    Height:
    108 mm
    Width:
    71 mm +7 mm versus Pre 3
    Depth:
    21 mm +5 mm versus Pre 3

Weight

Bars start at zero and share a scale within this chart.

  1. 1. Pre 3

    156 g

    +9 g versus Treo 180

  2. 2. Treo 180

    147 g

Screen size

Approximate rectangular screens calculated from recorded diagonal and aspect ratio at one relative scale. Rounded corners and cutouts are not subtracted. These are not phone outlines or calibrated actual sizes.

At least two phones need compatible screen dimensions for a drawing.

  1. 1. Pre 3

    Screen diagonal:
    3.58 in
    Aspect ratio (height:width):
    5:3
    Approximate rectangular screen area:
    36.5 cm²
  2. 2. Treo 180

    Treo 180: Screen geometry unavailable or conflicting.

Memory variants

Each row compares the same storage capacity. Cells show recorded RAM alternatives, not combined maxima. Not recorded does not mean unavailable in every market.

No unambiguous storage/RAM pairings are recorded. See the original specifications below.

Pre 3: Original memory entry

8 GB · 512 MB RAM

Treo 180: Original memory entry

16 MB

Practical features

Explicit Yes and No values are shown directly. Qualified or regional records retain their details. Unknown means the record is missing.

1. Pre 3

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
Yes
Memory card support:
No

2. Treo 180

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
No
Memory card support:
No

Battery capacity

Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.

At least two unambiguous positive capacity values are needed for a chart. Original entries remain in the specifications.

Specifications

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1. Pre 32. Treo 180

Everyday essentials
Everyday essentials — specifications for Pre 3, Treo 180.
SpecificationPre 3Treo 180
Dimensions (HxWxD)
  • 111 Х 64 Х 16 mm
  • 108 Х 71 Х 21 mm
Weight
  • 156 g
  • 147 g
Technology
  • TFT
  • Monochrome
Screen size
  • 3.58" inch
  • 0" inch
Screen resolution
  • 480 x 800 px
  • 160 x 160 px
Internal memory Recorded storage / RAM variants. Entries are alternatives, not a combined maximum. Ambiguous formats stay as recorded.
  • 8 GB
  • 512 MB RAM
  • 16 MB
Memory card support
  • No
  • No
Battery Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.
  • 1230 mAh
  • Removable Li-Ion
  • 0 mAh,
Operating system OS
  • HP webOS 2.2
  • Palm 3.5.2H
Chipset
  • Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon S2
Unknown
Headphone jack
  • Yes
  • No
Display
Display — specifications for Pre 3, Treo 180.
SpecificationPre 3Treo 180
Touchscreen
  • capacitive touchscreen
  • resistive touchscreen
Display colors
  • 16M
Unknown
Screen area
  • 36.5 cm2
Unknown
Screen format
  • 5:3 (height:width)
  • 1:1 (height:width)
Screen to body ratio
  • 51.4%
Unknown
PPI /points per inch/
  • 261 PPI
  • 0 PPI
Camera and Video
Camera and Video — specifications for Pre 3, Treo 180.
SpecificationPre 3Treo 180
Rear camera, main
  • 5 MP
  • Single
  • 0 MP,
Camera specs
  • 5 MP
  • AF
Unknown
Functions
  • LED flash
Unknown
Video
  • 720p
Unknown
Front camera, selfie
  • 0.3 MP
  • Single
  • 0 MP,
Specifications
  • VGA
Unknown
Performance
Performance — specifications for Pre 3, Treo 180.
SpecificationPre 3Treo 180
Processor CPU
  • 1.4 GHz Scorpion
  • Motorola DragonBall VZ MC68VZ328 33MHz
Graphics processor GPU
  • Adreno 205
Unknown
General specs
General specs — specifications for Pre 3, Treo 180.
SpecificationPre 3Treo 180
Release date
  • 2011
  • February
  • 2002
Colors
  • Black
  • Steel Blue
Historical recorded price Legacy catalogue value; date unknown. Not a current offer.
  • 350 EUR
Unknown
Battery life
  • Stand by time- Up to 300 h Talking time- Up to 5 h
  • Stand by time- Up to 100 h Talking time- Up to 2 h 30 min
Communication and Connectivity
Communication and Connectivity — specifications for Pre 3, Treo 180.
SpecificationPre 3Treo 180
SIM card
  • Mini-SIM
  • Mini-SIM
Network
  • Show all network frequencies: -2G - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Unknown
Speed
  • HSPA 7.2/5.76 Mbps
Unknown
GPRS
  • Yes
  • No
Edge
  • Yes
  • No
Wi-Fi
  • Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n
  • dual-band
  • No
GPS
  • Yes
  • with A-GPS
  • No
USB
  • microUSB 2.0
  • Proprietary
Bluetooth
  • 2.1
  • A2DP
  • EDR
  • No
Music and Audio
Music and Audio — specifications for Pre 3, Treo 180.
SpecificationPre 3Treo 180
Radio
  • No
  • No
Others
  • Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
Unknown
Other features
Other features — specifications for Pre 3, Treo 180.
SpecificationPre 3Treo 180
Dop
  • Sensors Accelerometer
  • proximity
  • compass - MP3/WAV/eAAC+ player -MP4/H.264 player -Organizer -Document viewer -Voice memo/dial -Predictive text input
  • Infrared port - 33 MHz Motorola Dragonball Processor -Organizer -Advanced calculator -GPRS upgradable -Handsfree ear-bud headset included