HP Veer 4G vs Palm Treo 180

Compare recorded specifications, size and practical differences.

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Key differences

Calculated from recorded specifications using minimum difference thresholds. These are differences, not an overall ranking. For three phones, numeric highlights compare the two extremes.

  • Weight

    Veer 4G: 44 g lighter

    Veer 4G:
    103 g
    Treo 180:
    147 g
  • Width

    Veer 4G: 16.5 mm narrower

    Veer 4G:
    54.5 mm
    Treo 180:
    71 mm
  • Depth

    Veer 4G: 5.9 mm thinner

    Veer 4G:
    15.1 mm
    Treo 180:
    21 mm
  • Height

    Veer 4G: 24 mm shorter

    Veer 4G:
    84 mm
    Treo 180:
    108 mm
  • Release year

    Veer 4G:
    2011
    Treo 180:
    2002

Physical size

Relative size, not calibrated actual size. Front and side outlines share one scale and a bottom baseline. Generic outlines use recorded body dimensions, excluding camera bumps.

  1. 1. Veer 4G

    Height:
    84 mm
    Width:
    54.5 mm
    Depth:
    15.1 mm
  2. 2. Treo 180

    Height:
    108 mm +24 mm versus Veer 4G
    Width:
    71 mm +16.5 mm versus Veer 4G
    Depth:
    21 mm +5.9 mm versus Veer 4G

Weight

Bars start at zero and share a scale within this chart.

  1. 1. Veer 4G

    103 g

  2. 2. Treo 180

    147 g

    +44 g versus Veer 4G

Screen size

Approximate rectangular screens calculated from recorded diagonal and aspect ratio at one relative scale. Rounded corners and cutouts are not subtracted. These are not phone outlines or calibrated actual sizes.

At least two phones need compatible screen dimensions for a drawing.

  1. 1. Veer 4G

    Veer 4G: Screen geometry unavailable or conflicting.

  2. 2. Treo 180

    Treo 180: Screen geometry unavailable or conflicting.

Memory variants

Each row compares the same storage capacity. Cells show recorded RAM alternatives, not combined maxima. Not recorded does not mean unavailable in every market.

No unambiguous storage/RAM pairings are recorded. See the original specifications below.

Veer 4G: Original memory entry

8 GB (6.1 GB user available)

Treo 180: Original memory entry

16 MB

Practical features

Explicit Yes and No values are shown directly. Qualified or regional records retain their details. Unknown means the record is missing.

1. Veer 4G

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
No
Memory card support:
No

2. Treo 180

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
No
Memory card support:
No

Battery capacity

Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.

At least two unambiguous positive capacity values are needed for a chart. Original entries remain in the specifications.

Specifications

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1. Veer 4G2. Treo 180

Everyday essentials
Everyday essentials — specifications for Veer 4G, Treo 180.
SpecificationVeer 4GTreo 180
Dimensions (HxWxD)
  • 84 Х 54.5 Х 15.1 mm
  • 108 Х 71 Х 21 mm
Weight
  • 103 g
  • 147 g
Technology
  • TFT
  • Monochrome
Screen size
  • 2.6" inch
  • 0" inch
Screen resolution
  • 320 x 400 px
  • 160 x 160 px
Internal memory Recorded storage / RAM variants. Entries are alternatives, not a combined maximum. Ambiguous formats stay as recorded.
  • 8 GB (6.1 GB user available)
  • 16 MB
Memory card support
  • No
  • No
Battery Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.
  • 910 mAh
  • Removable Li-Ion
  • 0 mAh,
Operating system OS
  • HP webOS 2.1
  • Palm 3.5.2H
Chipset
  • Qualcomm MSM7230
Unknown
Headphone jack
  • No
  • No
Display
Display — specifications for Veer 4G, Treo 180.
SpecificationVeer 4GTreo 180
Touchscreen
  • capacitive touchscreen
  • resistive touchscreen
Display colors
  • 256K
Unknown
Screen area
  • 21.3 cm2
Unknown
Screen format Unknown
  • 1:1 (height:width)
Screen to body ratio
  • 46.5%
Unknown
PPI /points per inch/
  • 0 PPI
  • 0 PPI
Camera and Video
Camera and Video — specifications for Veer 4G, Treo 180.
SpecificationVeer 4GTreo 180
Rear camera, main
  • 5 MP
  • Single
  • 0 MP,
Camera specs
  • 5 MP
Unknown
Functions
  • fixed focus
Unknown
Video
  • Yes
Unknown
Front camera, selfie
  • 0 MP,
  • 0 MP,
Performance
Performance — specifications for Veer 4G, Treo 180.
SpecificationVeer 4GTreo 180
Processor CPU
  • 800 MHz Scorpion
  • Motorola DragonBall VZ MC68VZ328 33MHz
Graphics processor GPU
  • Adreno 205
Unknown
General specs
General specs — specifications for Veer 4G, Treo 180.
SpecificationVeer 4GTreo 180
Release date
  • 2011
  • May
  • 2002
Colors
  • White
  • Black
  • Steel Blue
Historical recorded price Legacy catalogue value; date unknown. Not a current offer.
  • 320 EUR
Unknown
Battery life
  • Stand by time- Up to 300 h Talking time- Up to 5 h
  • Stand by time- Up to 100 h Talking time- Up to 2 h 30 min
Communication and Connectivity
Communication and Connectivity — specifications for Veer 4G, Treo 180.
SpecificationVeer 4GTreo 180
SIM card
  • Mini-SIM
  • Mini-SIM
Network
  • Show all network frequencies: -2G - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Unknown
Speed
  • HSPA 14.4/5.76 Mbps
Unknown
GPRS
  • Yes
  • No
Edge
  • Yes
  • No
Wi-Fi
  • Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
  • No
GPS
  • Yes
  • with A-GPS
  • No
USB
  • microUSB 2.0
  • Proprietary
Bluetooth
  • 2.1
  • A2DP
  • No
Music and Audio
Music and Audio — specifications for Veer 4G, Treo 180.
SpecificationVeer 4GTreo 180
Radio
  • No
  • No
Others
  • Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
Unknown
Other features
Other features — specifications for Veer 4G, Treo 180.
SpecificationVeer 4GTreo 180
Dop
  • Sensors Accelerometer
  • proximity - AT&T dedicated applications -MP3/WAV/eAAC+ player -MP4/H.264 player -Organizer -Document viewer -Voice memo/dial -Predictive text input - For AT&T
  • Infrared port - 33 MHz Motorola Dragonball Processor -Organizer -Advanced calculator -GPRS upgradable -Handsfree ear-bud headset included