Palm Pre vs Palm Treo 180

Compare recorded specifications, size and practical differences.

+ Add a third phone

Key differences

Calculated from recorded specifications using minimum difference thresholds. These are differences, not an overall ranking. For three phones, numeric highlights compare the two extremes.

  • Weight

    Pre: 14 g lighter

    Pre:
    133 g
    Treo 180:
    147 g
  • Width

    Pre: 11.5 mm narrower

    Pre:
    59.5 mm
    Treo 180:
    71 mm
  • Depth

    Pre: 4.1 mm thinner

    Pre:
    16.9 mm
    Treo 180:
    21 mm
  • Height

    Pre: 7.5 mm shorter

    Pre:
    100.5 mm
    Treo 180:
    108 mm
  • Release year

    Pre:
    2009
    Treo 180:
    2002

Physical size

Relative size, not calibrated actual size. Front and side outlines share one scale and a bottom baseline. Generic outlines use recorded body dimensions, excluding camera bumps.

  1. 1. Pre

    Height:
    100.5 mm
    Width:
    59.5 mm
    Depth:
    16.9 mm
  2. 2. Treo 180

    Height:
    108 mm +7.5 mm versus Pre
    Width:
    71 mm +11.5 mm versus Pre
    Depth:
    21 mm +4.1 mm versus Pre

Weight

Bars start at zero and share a scale within this chart.

  1. 1. Pre

    133 g

  2. 2. Treo 180

    147 g

    +14 g versus Pre

Screen size

Approximate rectangular screens calculated from recorded diagonal and aspect ratio at one relative scale. Rounded corners and cutouts are not subtracted. These are not phone outlines or calibrated actual sizes.

At least two phones need compatible screen dimensions for a drawing.

  1. 1. Pre

    Screen diagonal:
    3.1 in
    Aspect ratio (height:width):
    3:2
    Approximate rectangular screen area:
    28.6 cm²
  2. 2. Treo 180

    Treo 180: Screen geometry unavailable or conflicting.

Memory variants

Each row compares the same storage capacity. Cells show recorded RAM alternatives, not combined maxima. Not recorded does not mean unavailable in every market.

No unambiguous storage/RAM pairings are recorded. See the original specifications below.

Pre: Original memory entry

8 GB · 256 MB RAM

Treo 180: Original memory entry

16 MB

Practical features

Explicit Yes and No values are shown directly. Qualified or regional records retain their details. Unknown means the record is missing.

1. Pre

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
Yes
Memory card support:
No

2. Treo 180

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
No
Memory card support:
No

Battery capacity

Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.

At least two unambiguous positive capacity values are needed for a chart. Original entries remain in the specifications.

Specifications

Open a section for more detail. On narrow screens, swipe sideways or use Left/Right arrow keys while the table is focused. Unknown means missing data, not No. Recorded zero values are shown as recorded.

1. Pre2. Treo 180

Everyday essentials
Everyday essentials — specifications for Pre, Treo 180.
SpecificationPreTreo 180
Dimensions (HxWxD)
  • 100.5 Х 59.5 Х 16.9 mm
  • 108 Х 71 Х 21 mm
Weight
  • 133 g
  • 147 g
Technology
  • TFT
  • Monochrome
Screen size
  • 3.1" inch
  • 0" inch
Screen resolution
  • 320 x 480 px
  • 160 x 160 px
Internal memory Recorded storage / RAM variants. Entries are alternatives, not a combined maximum. Ambiguous formats stay as recorded.
  • 8 GB
  • 256 MB RAM
  • 16 MB
Memory card support
  • No
  • No
Battery Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.
  • 1150 mAh
  • Removable Li-Ion
  • 0 mAh,
Operating system OS
  • Palm webOS
  • Palm 3.5.2H
Headphone jack
  • Yes
  • No
Display
Display — specifications for Pre, Treo 180.
SpecificationPreTreo 180
Touchscreen
  • capacitive touchscreen
  • resistive touchscreen
Display colors
  • 16M
Unknown
Screen area
  • 28.6 cm2
Unknown
Screen format
  • 3:2 (height:width)
  • 1:1 (height:width)
Screen to body ratio
  • 47.9%
Unknown
PPI /points per inch/
  • 186 PPI
  • 0 PPI
Camera and Video
Camera and Video — specifications for Pre, Treo 180.
SpecificationPreTreo 180
Rear camera, main
  • 3.15 MP
  • Single
  • 0 MP,
Camera specs
  • 3.15 MP
Unknown
Functions
  • LED flash
Unknown
Video
  • No
Unknown
Front camera, selfie
  • 0 MP,
  • 0 MP,
Performance
Performance — specifications for Pre, Treo 180.
SpecificationPreTreo 180
Processor CPU
  • 600 MHz Cortex-A8
  • Motorola DragonBall VZ MC68VZ328 33MHz
Graphics processor GPU
  • PowerVR SGX
Unknown
General specs
General specs — specifications for Pre, Treo 180.
SpecificationPreTreo 180
Release date
  • 2009
  • Februray
  • 2002
Colors
  • Black
  • Steel Blue
Historical recorded price Legacy catalogue value; date unknown. Not a current offer.
  • 180 EUR
Unknown
Battery life
  • Stand by time- Up to 300 h Talking time- Up to 5 h
  • Stand by time- Up to 100 h Talking time- Up to 2 h 30 min
Communication and Connectivity
Communication and Connectivity — specifications for Pre, Treo 180.
SpecificationPreTreo 180
SIM card
  • Mini-SIM
  • Mini-SIM
Network
  • Show all network frequencies: -2G - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Unknown
Speed
  • HSPA 3.6/0.384 Mbps
Unknown
GPRS
  • Class 10
  • No
Edge
  • Class 10
  • No
Wi-Fi
  • Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g
  • No
GPS
  • Yes
  • No
USB
  • microUSB
  • Proprietary
Bluetooth
  • 2.1
  • A2DP (headset support only)
  • No
Harmful irradiation
  • SAR - 0.92 W/kg (head) 0.94 W/kg (body)
Unknown
Music and Audio
Music and Audio — specifications for Pre, Treo 180.
SpecificationPreTreo 180
Radio
  • No
  • No
Other features
Other features — specifications for Pre, Treo 180.
SpecificationPreTreo 180
Dop
  • Sensors Accelerometer Wireless charging
  • Infrared port - 33 MHz Motorola Dragonball Processor -Organizer -Advanced calculator -GPRS upgradable -Handsfree ear-bud headset included