Palm Pre vs vivo V17 Neo

Compare recorded specifications, size and practical differences.

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Key differences

Calculated from recorded specifications using minimum difference thresholds. These are differences, not an overall ranking. For three phones, numeric highlights compare the two extremes.

  • Weight

    Pre: 46 g lighter

    Pre:
    133 g
    V17 Neo:
    179 g
  • Width

    Pre: 15.7 mm narrower

    Pre:
    59.5 mm
    V17 Neo:
    75.2 mm
  • Screen diagonal

    Pre: 3.28 in smaller diagonal

    Pre:
    3.1 in
    V17 Neo:
    6.38 in
  • Rear camera layout

    Pre:
    Single
    V17 Neo:
    Triple
  • Depth

    V17 Neo: 8.8 mm thinner

    Pre:
    16.9 mm
    V17 Neo:
    8.1 mm
  • Height

    Pre: 59 mm shorter

    Pre:
    100.5 mm
    V17 Neo:
    159.5 mm

Physical size

Relative size, not calibrated actual size. Front and side outlines share one scale and a bottom baseline. Generic outlines use recorded body dimensions, excluding camera bumps.

  1. 1. Pre

    Height:
    100.5 mm
    Width:
    59.5 mm
    Depth:
    16.9 mm +8.8 mm versus V17 Neo
  2. 2. V17 Neo

    Height:
    159.5 mm +59 mm versus Pre
    Width:
    75.2 mm +15.7 mm versus Pre
    Depth:
    8.1 mm

Weight

Bars start at zero and share a scale within this chart.

  1. 1. Pre

    133 g

  2. 2. V17 Neo

    179 g

    +46 g versus Pre

Screen size

Approximate rectangular screens calculated from recorded diagonal and aspect ratio at one relative scale. Rounded corners and cutouts are not subtracted. These are not phone outlines or calibrated actual sizes.

  1. 1. Pre

    Screen diagonal:
    3.1 in
    Aspect ratio (height:width):
    3:2
    Approximate rectangular screen area:
    28.6 cm²
  2. 2. V17 Neo

    Screen diagonal:
    6.38 in
    Aspect ratio (height:width):
    19.5:9
    Approximate rectangular screen area:
    99.9 cm²

V17 Neo has approximately 249.2% more rectangular screen area than Pre.

Memory variants

Each row compares the same storage capacity. Cells show recorded RAM alternatives, not combined maxima. Not recorded does not mean unavailable in every market.

Recorded RAM for Pre, V17 Neo, compared at the same storage capacity.
StoragePreV17 Neo
128 GB Unknown 6 GB RAM
Pre: Original memory entry

8 GB · 256 MB RAM

Practical features

Explicit Yes and No values are shown directly. Qualified or regional records retain their details. Unknown means the record is missing.

1. Pre

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
Yes
Memory card support:
No

2. V17 Neo

NFC:
Yes
Headphone jack:
Yes
Memory card support:
See details microSD · up to 256 GB (dedicated slot)

Battery capacity

Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.

Recorded battery capacity

Bars start at zero and share a scale within this chart.

  1. 1. Pre

    1150 mAh

  2. 2. V17 Neo

    4500 mAh

    +3350 mAh versus Pre

Specifications

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1. Pre2. V17 Neo

Everyday essentials
Everyday essentials — specifications for Pre, V17 Neo.
SpecificationPreV17 Neo
Dimensions (HxWxD)
  • 100.5 Х 59.5 Х 16.9 mm
  • 159.5 Х 75.2 Х 8.1 mm
Weight
  • 133 g
  • 179 g
Technology
  • TFT
  • Super AMOLED
Screen size
  • 3.1" inch
  • 6.38" inch
Screen resolution
  • 320 x 480 px
  • 1080 x 2340 px
Internal memory Recorded storage / RAM variants. Entries are alternatives, not a combined maximum. Ambiguous formats stay as recorded.
  • 8 GB
  • 256 MB RAM
  • 128 GB
  • 6 GB RAM
Memory card support
  • No
  • microSD
  • up to 256 GB (dedicated slot)
Battery Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.
  • 1150 mAh
  • Removable Li-Ion
  • 4500 mAh
  • Non-removable Li-Po
Operating system OS
  • Palm webOS
  • Android 9.0 (Pie); Funtouch 9
Chipset Unknown
  • Mediatek MT6768 Helio P65 (12nm)
NFC Unknown
  • Yes
Headphone jack
  • Yes
  • Yes
Display
Display — specifications for Pre, V17 Neo.
SpecificationPreV17 Neo
Touchscreen
  • capacitive touchscreen
  • capacitive touchscreen
Display colors
  • 16M
  • 16M
Screen area
  • 28.6 cm2
  • 99.9 cm2
Screen format
  • 3:2 (height:width)
  • 19.5:9 (height:width)
Screen to body ratio
  • 47.9%
  • 83.3%
PPI /points per inch/
  • 186 PPI
  • 404 PPI
Camera and Video
Camera and Video — specifications for Pre, V17 Neo.
SpecificationPreV17 Neo
Rear camera, main
  • 3.15 MP
  • Single
  • 16 MP
  • Triple
Camera specs
  • 3.15 MP
  • 16 MP
  • f/1.8
  • (wide)
  • 1/2.8''
  • 1.12µm
  • PDAF -8 MP
  • f/2.2
  • 13mm (ultrawide) -2 MP
  • f/2.4
  • depth sensor
Functions
  • LED flash
  • HDR
Video
  • No
  • 1080p@30fps
Front camera, selfie
  • 0 MP,
  • 32 MP
  • Single
Specifications Unknown
  • 32 MP
  • f/2.0
Performance

Scores marked * are historical catalogue entries. Test conditions are unspecified; no new testing is implied.

Performance — specifications for Pre, V17 Neo.
SpecificationPreV17 Neo
Processor CPU
  • 600 MHz Cortex-A8
  • Octa-core (2x2.0 GHz Cortex-A75 & 6x1.7 GHz Cortex-A55)
Graphics processor GPU
  • PowerVR SGX
  • Mali-G52 MC2
Antutu 8 score * Unknown
  • 183033
General specs
General specs — specifications for Pre, V17 Neo.
SpecificationPreV17 Neo
Release date
  • 2009
  • Februray
  • 2019
  • August
Colors
  • Black
  • Black brilliant
  • Blue Pearl
Historical recorded price Legacy catalogue value; date unknown. Not a current offer.
  • 180 EUR
  • 280 EUR
Battery life
  • Stand by time- Up to 300 h Talking time- Up to 5 h
Unknown
Communication and Connectivity
Communication and Connectivity — specifications for Pre, V17 Neo.
SpecificationPreV17 Neo
SIM card
  • Mini-SIM
  • Dual SIM (Nano-SIM
  • dual stand-by)
Network
  • Show all network frequencies: -2G - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
  • Show all network frequencies: -2G - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 -3G - HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100 -4G - LTE band 1(2100)
  • 3(1800)
  • 5(850)
  • 7(2600)
  • 8(900)
  • 20(800)
  • 38(2600)
  • 40(2300)
  • 41(2500)
Speed
  • HSPA 3.6/0.384 Mbps
  • HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps
  • LTE-A (2CA) Cat6 300/150 Mbps
GPRS
  • Class 10
  • Yes
Edge
  • Class 10
  • Yes
Wi-Fi
  • Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g
  • Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac
  • dual-band
  • Wi-Fi Direct
  • hotspot
GPS
  • Yes
  • Yes
  • with A-GPS
  • GLONASS
  • GALILEO
  • BDS
USB
  • microUSB
  • microUSB 2.0
  • USB On-The-Go
Bluetooth
  • 2.1
  • A2DP (headset support only)
  • 5.0
  • A2DP
  • LE
Harmful irradiation
  • SAR - 0.92 W/kg (head) 0.94 W/kg (body)
Unknown
Music and Audio
Music and Audio — specifications for Pre, V17 Neo.
SpecificationPreV17 Neo
Radio
  • No
  • FM radio
Others Unknown
  • Always-on display
  • Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
Other features
Other features — specifications for Pre, V17 Neo.
SpecificationPreV17 Neo
Dop
  • Sensors Accelerometer Wireless charging
  • Sensors Fingerprint (under display)
  • accelerometer
  • gyro
  • proximity
  • compass - Fast battery charging 18W - For Europe