Palm Treo 180 vs Samsung L870

Compare recorded specifications, size and practical differences.

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Key differences

Calculated from recorded specifications using minimum difference thresholds. These are differences, not an overall ranking. For three phones, numeric highlights compare the two extremes.

  • Weight

    L870: 27 g lighter

    Treo 180:
    147 g
    L870:
    120 g
  • Width

    L870: 20.5 mm narrower

    Treo 180:
    71 mm
    L870:
    50.5 mm
  • Depth

    L870: 7.5 mm thinner

    Treo 180:
    21 mm
    L870:
    13.5 mm
  • Height

    L870: 4.5 mm shorter

    Treo 180:
    108 mm
    L870:
    103.5 mm
  • Release year

    Treo 180:
    2002
    L870:
    2008

Physical size

Relative size, not calibrated actual size. Front and side outlines share one scale and a bottom baseline. Generic outlines use recorded body dimensions, excluding camera bumps.

  1. 1. Treo 180

    Height:
    108 mm +4.5 mm versus L870
    Width:
    71 mm +20.5 mm versus L870
    Depth:
    21 mm +7.5 mm versus L870
  2. 2. L870

    Height:
    103.5 mm
    Width:
    50.5 mm
    Depth:
    13.5 mm

Weight

Bars start at zero and share a scale within this chart.

  1. 1. Treo 180

    147 g

    +27 g versus L870

  2. 2. L870

    120 g

Screen size

Approximate rectangular screens calculated from recorded diagonal and aspect ratio at one relative scale. Rounded corners and cutouts are not subtracted. These are not phone outlines or calibrated actual sizes.

At least two phones need compatible screen dimensions for a drawing.

  1. 1. Treo 180

    Treo 180: Screen geometry unavailable or conflicting.

  2. 2. L870

    Screen diagonal:
    2.4 in
    Aspect ratio (height:width):
    4:3
    Approximate rectangular screen area:
    17.8 cm²

Memory variants

Each row compares the same storage capacity. Cells show recorded RAM alternatives, not combined maxima. Not recorded does not mean unavailable in every market.

No unambiguous storage/RAM pairings are recorded. See the original specifications below.

Treo 180: Original memory entry

16 MB

L870: Original memory entry

100 MB

Practical features

Explicit Yes and No values are shown directly. Qualified or regional records retain their details. Unknown means the record is missing.

1. Treo 180

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
No
Memory card support:
No

2. L870

NFC:
Unknown
Headphone jack:
No
Memory card support:
See details microSD · up to 8 GB (dedicated slot)

Battery capacity

Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.

At least two unambiguous positive capacity values are needed for a chart. Original entries remain in the specifications.

Specifications

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1. Treo 1802. L870

Everyday essentials
Everyday essentials — specifications for Treo 180, L870.
SpecificationTreo 180L870
Dimensions (HxWxD)
  • 108 Х 71 Х 21 mm
  • 103.5 Х 50.5 Х 13.5 mm
Weight
  • 147 g
  • 120 g
Technology
  • Monochrome
  • TFT
Screen size
  • 0" inch
  • 2.4" inch
Screen resolution
  • 160 x 160 px
  • 240 x 320 px
Internal memory Recorded storage / RAM variants. Entries are alternatives, not a combined maximum. Ambiguous formats stay as recorded.
  • 16 MB
  • 100 MB
Memory card support
  • No
  • microSD
  • up to 8 GB (dedicated slot)
Battery Capacity is not battery life. No endurance test is implied.
  • 0 mAh,
  • 1000 mAh
  • Removable Li-Ion
Operating system OS
  • Palm 3.5.2H
  • Symbian 9.3
  • Series 60 rel. 3.2
Headphone jack
  • No
  • No
Display
Display — specifications for Treo 180, L870.
SpecificationTreo 180L870
Touchscreen
  • resistive touchscreen
Unknown
Screen area Unknown
  • 17.8 cm2
Screen format
  • 1:1 (height:width)
  • 4:3 (height:width)
Screen to body ratio Unknown
  • 34.1%
PPI /points per inch/
  • 0 PPI
  • 167 PPI
Camera and Video
Camera and Video — specifications for Treo 180, L870.
SpecificationTreo 180L870
Rear camera, main
  • 0 MP,
  • 3.15 MP
  • Single
Camera specs Unknown
  • 3.15 MP
  • AF
Video Unknown
  • Yes
Front camera, selfie
  • 0 MP,
  • 0.3 MP
  • Single
Performance
Performance — specifications for Treo 180, L870.
SpecificationTreo 180L870
Processor CPU
  • Motorola DragonBall VZ MC68VZ328 33MHz
  • 32-bit STMicroelectronics Nomadik STn8815P14
General specs
General specs — specifications for Treo 180, L870.
SpecificationTreo 180L870
Release date
  • 2002
  • 2008
  • April
Colors
  • Steel Blue
  • Black
Historical recorded price Legacy catalogue value; date unknown. Not a current offer. Unknown
  • 130 EUR
Battery life
  • Stand by time- Up to 100 h Talking time- Up to 2 h 30 min
  • Stand by time- Up to 222 h Talking time- Up to 3 h 50 min
Communication and Connectivity
Communication and Connectivity — specifications for Treo 180, L870.
SpecificationTreo 180L870
SIM card
  • Mini-SIM
  • Mini-SIM
Network Unknown
  • Show all network frequencies: -2G - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
Speed Unknown
  • HSPA 3.6/0.384 Mbps
GPRS
  • No
  • Class 12
Edge
  • No
  • Class 12
Wi-Fi
  • No
  • No
GPS
  • No
  • No
USB
  • Proprietary
  • 2.0
Bluetooth
  • No
  • 2.0
  • A2DP
Harmful irradiation Unknown
  • SAR - 0.41 W/kg (head) 1.04 W/kg (body) SAR EU - 0.36 W/kg (head)
Music and Audio
Music and Audio — specifications for Treo 180, L870.
SpecificationTreo 180L870
Radio
  • No
  • Stereo FM radio
  • RDS
Other features
Other features — specifications for Treo 180, L870.
SpecificationTreo 180L870
Dop
  • Infrared port - 33 MHz Motorola Dragonball Processor -Organizer -Advanced calculator -GPRS upgradable -Handsfree ear-bud headset included
  • WMV/RV/MP4/3GP player -MP3/WMA/WAV/RA/AAC/M4A player -Predictive text input -Document viewer (Word
  • Excel
  • PowerPoint
  • PDF) -Business card scanner -Voice memo